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> <channel><title>Comments on: It&#8217;s Not Love</title> <atom:link href="http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/2009/01/19/its-not-love-2/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/2009/01/19/its-not-love-2/</link> <description>digital strategist waffling about advertising, digital and social media</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 04:41:48 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator> <item><title>By: Nathan Bush</title><link>http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/2009/01/19/its-not-love-2/comment-page-1/#comment-310</link> <dc:creator>Nathan Bush</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:08:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/?p=129#comment-310</guid> <description>@ Matt Love it. But I don&#039;t think anyone has a word for the love Jules has for his shoes - it&#039;s unnatural.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Matt Love it. But I don&#8217;t think anyone has a word for the love Jules has for his shoes &#8211; it&#8217;s unnatural.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt Moore</title><link>http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/2009/01/19/its-not-love-2/comment-page-1/#comment-305</link> <dc:creator>Matt Moore</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:39:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/?p=129#comment-305</guid> <description>Nathan - Some thought spray in response to your post:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I suspect that if most people are asked to articulate their relationship to a brand, it&#039;s more likely to be somewhere between &quot;stranger bumped into on bus&quot; and &quot;mate from pub&quot;. A very, very small minority will be &quot;like a child/parent/spouse&quot;. For banks &amp; telcos it may be &quot;S&amp;M dungeon&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To quote at least one song: &quot;Love&#039;s a two-way street&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If a marketing manager wants love (whatever that is) for their ickle baby, what do they do to encourage love in consumers? To make themselves love-able? Do they love their consumers or are they heartless lotharios who want to generate adoration in their victims but give nothing back in return?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;BTW the Greeks had lots of different words (agape, eros, philia) for different kinds of love. They were smart like that. They may even have had a word for Julian&#039;s relationship to his shoes.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan &#8211; Some thought spray in response to your post:</p><p>I suspect that if most people are asked to articulate their relationship to a brand, it&#39;s more likely to be somewhere between &quot;stranger bumped into on bus&quot; and &quot;mate from pub&quot;. A very, very small minority will be &quot;like a child/parent/spouse&quot;. For banks &amp; telcos it may be &quot;S&amp;M dungeon&quot;.</p><p>To quote at least one song: &quot;Love&#39;s a two-way street&quot;</p><p>If a marketing manager wants love (whatever that is) for their ickle baby, what do they do to encourage love in consumers? To make themselves love-able? Do they love their consumers or are they heartless lotharios who want to generate adoration in their victims but give nothing back in return?</p><p>BTW the Greeks had lots of different words (agape, eros, philia) for different kinds of love. They were smart like that. They may even have had a word for Julian&#39;s relationship to his shoes.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nathan Bush</title><link>http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/2009/01/19/its-not-love-2/comment-page-1/#comment-303</link> <dc:creator>Nathan Bush</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 03:01:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/?p=129#comment-303</guid> <description>I think that is the sticking point here Adam - when it is used without definition. It&#039;s the easy way out.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that is the sticking point here Adam &#8211; when it is used without definition. It&#8217;s the easy way out.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Adam Ferrier</title><link>http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/2009/01/19/its-not-love-2/comment-page-1/#comment-300</link> <dc:creator>Adam Ferrier</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 02:43:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/?p=129#comment-300</guid> <description>People use the word &#039;love&#039; as a short cut for loads and loads of positive emotions that indicate we feel fondly towards something.  The issue with the word love  is that it&#039;s such a short-cut that it has no meaning.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The other word I object to, for similar reasons is &#039;cool&#039;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;These words when used often and not defined are strong signs of bullshit.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People use the word &#8216;love&#8217; as a short cut for loads and loads of positive emotions that indicate we feel fondly towards something.  The issue with the word love  is that it&#8217;s such a short-cut that it has no meaning.</p><p>The other word I object to, for similar reasons is &#8216;cool&#8217;.</p><p>These words when used often and not defined are strong signs of bullshit.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Julian Cole</title><link>http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/2009/01/19/its-not-love-2/comment-page-1/#comment-294</link> <dc:creator>Julian Cole</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:19:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/?p=129#comment-294</guid> <description>Agree, I think the word does probably get played out a little too much in marketing and advertising. There would be a select few brands that have brand lovers. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, I think some people have pretty strong feelings towards brands. Thinks about car fanatics! I have a mate who thinks about Holdens probably 23 hours of the day. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You are right &#039;love&#039; with a person will always be stronger than with a brand. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However what a brand is and what love is, are murky terms. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One of my favourite academic journal articles of all time, is Susan Fournier - Consumers and their brands. It talks about how people have relationships with brands which are similar to real life relationships. It is a long article 30pages but is a great read. &lt;br/&gt;http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;cluster=5708726964470197835</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree, I think the word does probably get played out a little too much in marketing and advertising. There would be a select few brands that have brand lovers.</p><p>However, I think some people have pretty strong feelings towards brands. Thinks about car fanatics! I have a mate who thinks about Holdens probably 23 hours of the day.</p><p>You are right &#39;love&#39; with a person will always be stronger than with a brand.</p><p>However what a brand is and what love is, are murky terms.</p><p>One of my favourite academic journal articles of all time, is Susan Fournier &#8211; Consumers and their brands. It talks about how people have relationships with brands which are similar to real life relationships. It is a long article 30pages but is a great read. <br
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href="http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;cluster=5708726964470197835" rel="nofollow">http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;cluster=5708726964470197835</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nathan Bush</title><link>http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/2009/01/19/its-not-love-2/comment-page-1/#comment-293</link> <dc:creator>Nathan Bush</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:32:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/?p=129#comment-293</guid> <description>well said wisey, well said.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said wisey, well said.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: wisey</title><link>http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/2009/01/19/its-not-love-2/comment-page-1/#comment-292</link> <dc:creator>wisey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:29:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/?p=129#comment-292</guid> <description>ohhh. brand love = brand fluff.&lt;br/&gt;Makes me want to vom.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ohhh. brand love = brand fluff.<br
/>Makes me want to vom.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nathan Bush</title><link>http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/2009/01/19/its-not-love-2/comment-page-1/#comment-291</link> <dc:creator>Nathan Bush</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:08:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/?p=129#comment-291</guid> <description>Ah I love it when you stir the pot Jules! The word &#039;love&#039; has many different connotations (28 different meanings on dictionary.com). However, Wikipedia puts it best I think with: &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;Love is any of a number of emotions and experiences related to a sense of strong affection.[1] The word love can refer to a variety of different feelings, states, and attitudes, ranging from generic pleasure (&quot;I loved that meal&quot;) to intense interpersonal attraction (&quot;I love my girlfriend&quot;).&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was coming from the point of view of not thinking that your brand is as important as the real love in consumers lives (ie. interpersonal attraction). That is, your consumers don&#039;t wake up every morning and think of you, worry about you, lay down their lives for you. Your relationship with them is not that important! &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;On a side note, it also makes me wonder whether the generic pleasure definitions of the word love came about through marketing???</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah I love it when you stir the pot Jules! The word &#8216;love&#8217; has many different connotations (28 different meanings on dictionary.com). However, Wikipedia puts it best I think with:</p><p>&#8220;Love is any of a number of emotions and experiences related to a sense of strong affection.[1] The word love can refer to a variety of different feelings, states, and attitudes, ranging from generic pleasure (&#8220;I loved that meal&#8221;) to intense interpersonal attraction (&#8220;I love my girlfriend&#8221;).&#8221;</p><p>I was coming from the point of view of not thinking that your brand is as important as the real love in consumers lives (ie. interpersonal attraction). That is, your consumers don&#8217;t wake up every morning and think of you, worry about you, lay down their lives for you. Your relationship with them is not that important!</p><p>On a side note, it also makes me wonder whether the generic pleasure definitions of the word love came about through marketing???</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Julian Cole</title><link>http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/2009/01/19/its-not-love-2/comment-page-1/#comment-290</link> <dc:creator>Julian Cole</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:50:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.anotheradvertisingwanker.com/?p=129#comment-290</guid> <description>Are you going to give a definition of what love is? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cause I think I love my Nike Air Max&#039;s&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It is hard debate, to say that you have a relationship with any brand, because at the end of the day they are just the thoughts in your heads. Brands do not really exist, like humans.  I guess brands are kind of like God, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Does that mean that people dont really love their god?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you going to give a definition of what love is?</p><p>Cause I think I love my Nike Air Max&#8217;s</p><p>It is hard debate, to say that you have a relationship with any brand, because at the end of the day they are just the thoughts in your heads. Brands do not really exist, like humans.  I guess brands are kind of like God,</p><p>Does that mean that people dont really love their god?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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